| Bard | Thu May 14 11:19:44 2009 MST |
| I believe Bard needs something extra or it seems as if nobody will
be bard besides the ones that are already.
I put a little thought in what may help get more players interested
and/or help the bards be more active.
1. Make troubadour songs more powerful.
a. Last longer and increase the song boosts.
b. These songs are too short lived and not strong enough to
warrent the use of troubadour.
2. Have an omnicron skill put in that determines if the mob is low
enough level for an insta or not.
3. Have an omnicron song in troubadour that adds to the parties exp rate.
a. 3-5% just like tale of achman or allegory of athol.
b. Last for a short duration.
Just a few ideas.
Garr |
| >Bard | Thu May 14 22:09:21 2009 MST |
| I have pondered this a lot and hashed many ideas around with both
players and wizaerds since I've started playing bard.
I've decided to put all my thoughts down in one place since Garraty
went ahead and posted some ideas to try and get things going. Most
of my ideas are well received by most players, not all. Most of my
ideas have been shot down for many different reasons by most
wizards. Also, as I finish cleaning this post up, I see Daneel has
dome something to the guild already so this point may be obsolete,
but here goes anyways:
First, I've enjoyed the hell out of bard the few times I'ved reinced
in, and I haven't even begun to play around with knife throwing
much. My bard experiences have been doing mostly eqp. With that
said, I've thought they've needed just a little something more for
awhile, like Garraty and others.
The first idea I've always had when I brainstorm has also been a
party xp song as well. I have inquired many players' opinions and
wizards' opinions and the general consensus is most players love it
some say it doesn't make sense, and all the wizards I've talked to
have shot it down.
Since I haven't done much knife throwing, and absolutely no heart
throwing, I don't have a personal opinion on adding/changing
anything on that end. My biggest concern with this aspect of the
guild was semi fixed with the tweaking of magical knives not
breaking as much, but completelty solved by the creation of the
bandolier armor. The first thought I've come up with is not an
addition, but removing target preference skill and just targeting
the body part when u use the skill
like 'use throw knife at heart'. Also, since I don't have much
experience with knife throwing, my last idea is probably dumb but we
could expand the targets possible. Full list of ideas so far is:
feet-anti tracking/wandering, legs-reduced dodge/tumble/melee
defense, groin-stun(hard to hit), hands-disarm, chest-phys dmg,
heart-instakill, shoulder-reduced combat str, neck-bleed special,
eyes-break concentration
In regards to troubadour, I seem to share a completely different
view on this guild than almost eveyrone else. Before even playing
bard for the first time, I knew I wanted to play it with eqp first
and foremost and thus choose a caster race to get the most spr out
of it. With that said, I don's seem to share the same problems
others say is wrong with this guild. Psongs seem to last fine to me
and I don't have much problems tapping with caster race and regen
wishes. However, i havent paid attention to the power difference
between an idividual song and a psong. I always put mine up first
and refresh mine through psongs but i havent played since the change
to protection refreshments. However with the singing ive done my
bard char has hardly gained any mastery. In my opinion the songs
need to do more mastery in general or, maybe the psongs need
increased not sure on that.
Other ideas collected have been:
-a song thats like song of destruction but for casters with a mini
selineas blessing effect. this idea has been shot down as its been
said blasters alreadsy get enough of a boost.
-skillspeed
-spellspeed
Anyways thats all for now.
/DM
( i doubt any of this will happen, buit its fun to hope)
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| >Bard | Fri May 15 08:17:48 2009 MST |
| Regarding Daran and Garraty's suggestions together:
First off, the reason I am so against an xp song is as follows:
I love bard. It is my hands-down favorite guild on the mud. I always keep a character in it these days, and I always return to it, because it is the single most fun guild for me, bar none.
I believe the reason for this is because it is the best-themed guild on the mud. It is the easiest to role-play, and has the least things that force one to break out of character and meta-game.
My fondest memories on the mud involve singing for lu-eq and xp- both the listed bard skill songs, and extemporaneous songs about what we were doing at the time (Brave Sir Lu being an oft-recurring theme when he was tanking).
To me, and XP song is a meta-song. I don't see a good way to do it in character. And for this reason, I really, really hate the idea, with an unabiding passion.
That being said, I am trying to think of more in-character ideas for ways to improve this a bit. One thing I'm thinking about is expanding the efficacy of funeral march in one of a number of possible ways.
-Daneel
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